Pub in South Dewsbury demolished: www.kirklees.gov.uk/beta/planning-applications/search-for-planning-applications/detail.aspx?id=2022/92094
The Nelson Inn, having been closed for around a year has been demolished unlawfully by accounts from the local residents. This is strange, as the propsed plans do not show any alterations to the building, just its conversion to an Islamic learning centre and prayer room.
The applicant states that they will rebuild like for like, but I anticipate a few minor amendments coming in, or even an alternative scheme one the the principle of development is approved.
I cant think why any religeous institution would wish to invest in a building that resembles a Victorian pub. I’ll be keeping my eye on this one.
Long since derelict pub to be dropped for 6 houses near Todmorden, Calderdale:
Looking back through Google Street View, this pub hasn’t been in use for a very long time. And it’s clear why. The area lost its mill, and much of the housing around this area has been demolished, as can be seen from the historic map below from circa 1900.
Planning permission for its conservation into flats was refused back in 2009, which would have been a much better option, but alas it is in Green Belt. Going even further back, in 2000 the conversion was approved. Frustrating planning inconsistency.
This fantastic website (www.halifaxpeople.com) has some interesting old images of the pub in a more prosperous time, in which it was part of a nascent village. It would seem the neighboring terraces were demolished to allow for the pub car park. It also looks like the tall chimneys have been removed. Sad to see not just the pub go, but a mill and it’s contingent community over a protracted century of decline.
Estate pub to be pulled down for housing:
This 20th-century pub lies at the heart of a housing estate, and was envisaged as a hub in this suburban extension to Garforth. Its not a particulary historic pub, or of any architectural merit, but nonetheless, the monotony of cul-de-sacs and dormer bungalows benefits from a public building tieing everything together.
And it’s always worth a moment to lament when an English pub is erased to make way for some drab housing.
Another pub to be removed from Bradford:
Not the prettiest of drinkeries, but it’s what’s inside that counts. And under that pebbledash exterior is a beautiful masonry end-terrace. Bradford loses a pub a month, and in my opinion each one worth lamenting. A tiny bit more of the Victorian city lost forever.
Some of the original stonework remains exposed at the base of the building
Beautiful pub to be demolished for 10 flats:
A quiet month in Yorkshire on the demolition front has allowed me to explore the other side of the Pennines this month, beginning in Salford; a Local Authority that seems to have a penchant for erasing its history, whilst being beguiled by a vague notion of regeneration.
This lovely High Street pub has been closed since 2016, and was due to be converted into a daycare center, preserving the building.
Sold via auction for £200k in 2019, the new owner sought a higher return and put in an application for a three-story building, which was rightly refused.
The new application shows a similar-sized building albeit with a pitched roof, but equally dominant in the otherwise domestic scale street.
The building has been described as derelict and vandalised, which is seemingly how all buildings are described after being momentarily vacant in developer rhetoric.
The pub offers an important contribution to this street, which is one of the few remaining high streets of the towns in Greater Manchester that remains entirely Victorian/Edwardian.
As the building has recently been shown to be viable for business use, Salford should recognise the value in its retention. This is a high street, and a commercial use should be favoured over residential flats.
Pub in South Yorkshire to be demolished for 12 houses:
This pub has been up for sale for £225,000, which is a steal considering its also a very large handsome house. Even if you lived upstairs and had your own personal pub downstairs, you’d still be getting a home far bigger than anything else for that money nearby. Maybe the marketing didn’t quite reach a big enough audience.
I can see that delivering 12 houses will appeal to some, but as ever I contend that houses can be delivered on this site whilst retaining the building. Its only been closed since 2019, which is not enough time to demonstrate a cultural shift in Stocksbridge away from pub-going. The people around here clearly still need a boozer! I count 2 remaining pubs in Stocksbridge. This is a town of 10,000 people.
It’s not the most quaint pub, set in an overly large concrete car park (could have been your front garden…) in a housing estate. The historic maps show the pub to be on the site on an earlier property called Half Hall, however, the current building dates from 1963 – relatively modern in spite of its appearance alluding to early 19th-century pub architecture.
Application by Barnsley Council to knock down a pub they have bought: https://wwwapplications.barnsley.gov.uk/PlanningExplorerMVC/Home/ApplicationDetails?planningApplicationNumber=2021%2F0959#summary
If its not the brewery cashing in, or a volume housebuilder picking up recently closed pubs, then it turns out your Local Authority will knock your pub down for you. Barnsley Council purchased this pub with part of the £23.1m Towns Fund stipend it received from Central Government. An odd use of money considering there are derelict brownfield sites throughout the district that could be acquired via CPO much more economically. It is public money after all.
Goldthorpe has seen its centre carved out over the last few years, in spite of regeneration money pouring in and replacing the serviceable pavements with what appear to be stone bar codes. Demolishing the local is apparently the next step in this regeneration.
Although still trading in 2019, the pub has already gone such is the swiftness of an application to The Council by The Council. I really hate seeing pubs disappear at this rate.
A retrospective application (ie. its already happened) to demolish a pub South of Sheffield:
What an egregious way to manipulate the planning system. Tear down a local pub knowing that the law states you need permission for this and then ask for it retrospectively. What can they do? Say no and tell you to rebuild the thing? I highly doubt it.
It means a lot to see the high volume of public comments on the application, also exasperated with this criminal activity. A resident notes that the pub closed during lockdown, and this is grounds for it being described as an unviable business. There was a pandemic I seem to remember.
I would love to see the swines being made to build it back, brick by brick, to specifications set out by a heritage professional. And if their business goes under so be it. You broke the law and you deserve it.
That won’t happen. Despite the public ire the planning officer will want to avoid an appeal and the developer will get their 6 houses built out before the end of 2022.
Application to demolish a house in Doncaster district, which suspiciously looks like an old pub:
In my humble opinion, Thorne is one of Yorkshire’s best-kept secrets. A medieval market town outside of any national park or AONB, it is a paint job and a sourdough specialist away from being Thirsk. Yet even Doncastatrians are at a loss to point it out on a map.
This building is not magnificent, and as far as I can tell was the lodgings for those using the neighboring (former) Victoria Inn, now an Indian restaurant. Whether or not the Victoria Lodge operated independently as a pub is not known to me, and will likely be a secret only the people of Thorne know.
A lovely building in an old part of town, its loss is needless as the development site to the rear is clearly already accessible.
Shown in red on the historical map from circa 1900, no indication that it was a pub at this stage.
Last pub in the village of Spalding Moor near Hull to be lost:
This received permission last year, and it looks like the demolition is going ahead very soon.
It is always a shame to lose a pub, but when its the only pub, that is tragic. What a boring place this will now be. Moreover, this pub sits on the cross roads in the centre of the village. Its a landmark building. It is the focal point of the settlement. Urban design is not a new science anymore. We know the damage that this type of development and demolition does to a community. There are so many ways a planning officer could refuse this development based on local policy. I know this because I am a planning officer, and there is always a way to make the right thing happen.